I Am Me

I Am Andres Perez - From Poetry to Hip Hop, Exploring Mental Health, Intuition and Finding Individuality in Music and Acting

Liz Bachmann Season 1 Episode 4

Join us for an intimate conversation with the dynamic artist, Andres Perez, AKA S.O.B.R.I.N.O.  We journey through his life, uncovering how a third-grade poet grew into an artist who seamlessly merges Trap Music  and Spanish music to create a sound that's uniquely his. Listen as he discusses standing out in the entertainment industry by finding your unique voice, avoiding the distractions of social media, and being unapologetically you. 

Speaker 1:

Welcome to I Am Me Podcast. I'm your host, liz Bachman, and on this podcast I want to celebrate you for being you. I'm super excited to sit down with my guests each week and talk about their journey, their experiences and where they came from. So, without further ado, let's dive into this week's episode. Hey everybody, welcome back to I Am Me Podcast. Today I'm going to sit down and talk with Andres Perez, aka Sabrina. He is a guy an actor, slash rapper, musician that I got to work with about three or four months ago on an acting project. He actually played a murderer and I got to play his victim. But yeah, we're going to sit down and talk to him today about his career and what he's doing, what he's up to and kind of how he got into this. So how you doing, andres?

Speaker 2:

I am doing phenomenal. Thank you for having me on this podcast. I am super blessed to get to talk to you again. It's great seeing you. You look great, as always.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, Thank you, Back at you. Okay, so diving right in. Where did all this kind of start for you, Like what was did acting come first? Did music come first? And kind of like what peaked that Did? It come earlier in life, or is this something you're 29? We just talked about that. So is this something that has come up, you know, later in your 20s? Just kind of, I don't know any of your back stories. I'm really curious to see where all this kind of came from for you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I started all the arts started in third grade. I started with poetry, actually, okay so that's a nice.

Speaker 1:

So poetry is a great segue into music.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, exactly. So like I started doing poetry in third grade, I came from an immigrant household. Okay, and like in an immigrant household, it's like school business and art isn't really a career. So like when I was like writing, I would just do it like on, like the, on the DL.

Speaker 1:

So you didn't even feel like you could share that with your family.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, I just knew they wouldn't really understand.

Speaker 1:

So what's interesting me about that is I don't come from an immigrant household but like the same like the arts was not something that was really, it was like a hobby but not a career option, but I definitely felt comfortable sharing it with my family. So that's interesting that you felt like you kind of had to keep that on the down low. So I did. That is that's why I take it that's not still happening, but how long until you felt like you could share that part of yourself with your family.

Speaker 2:

Probably not until, like I was like an adult.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

Like probably early 20s 1819.

Speaker 1:

So how so poetry in the third grade? How is that going for you? Like how I'm very curious about, was little Andres like hiding away in his room writing poetry or like I don't know. I think of my like version. I don't know. I feel like I'd be all like angsty and the thing over the eye or something, but I doubt that was your experience.

Speaker 2:

So I thought growing up I would listen to like Hispanic music. So I grew up like listening to like Hispanic music Joe Arroyo, celia Cruz, chakira, mark, antony but then also at the same time, like I was born in Atlanta and like I'm from here, so like the culture, there's always been hip hop around me, like I just couldn't escape, like I grew up with those sounds. So the mixture of like the pop, michael Jackson, and then like the Hispanic music in the house and then hip hop all on around me in general, kind of shaped me into like wanting to make music that kind of catered to one, to one, one genre, so kind of take. So essentially, like Sabrina makes music that's like hip hop with like Spanish.

Speaker 1:

That's a really cool take on it. So I like I always like when people can take their background and they can like they add that to your art, because your art is you, and when you really bring yourself to your art. I mean, I think that's what makes people stand out for sure.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

So music. So when did you start making that shift from poetry to music?

Speaker 2:

Um, I would say the very first time I ever like, did like a mixtape, was in ninth grade.

Speaker 1:

Did you? Okay, when you say a mixtape, were you actually like performing, singing the music, or were you like you just like put a mixtape together?

Speaker 2:

Like I like I got instrumentals on YouTube and I recorded like lyrics, like on the mic that you have on right now, like with your little headphones, oh, okay, vocals into a software and kind of mixed it and that's really cool.

Speaker 1:

I love it, though, like I mean, one thing about today is like you can just do that stuff. You can, you know, piece it all together, what? Okay, so it sounds like music came first before acting. Is that okay? I didn't know, I didn't know. We had that in common. Music can be for me first when I was like 1516 and then I moved into acting later. But this is not about me. So when did when did acting like start coming into the picture?

Speaker 2:

So I did modeling in college. There was like a college group I guess, and that's what like kind of sparked kind of me getting booked for for like print work, and then that led to me landing like commercial gigs.

Speaker 1:

Okay like to act in hell yeah, okay, so that's something I should have mentioned at the beginning. I didn't ask you that, but looking at your Instagram and your pretty face, I was going to ask you if you're a model, also for people who can't see Andre. He has a very pretty face, but he doesn't go around acting like it. So you know that's a good thing that actually makes you nice to talk to Humility, humility. So I'm so curious. So you said there's a modeling group in college.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so I went to Georgia State it was called Panthers Allure, okay, and like. The person that like led the or started the group, was a sign model. So he like basically taught all of us like how to walk, how to like different poses, how to feel comfortable in front of a camera, how to work with other people like that are in the shots to and how to talk to the photographers and what to look for.

Speaker 1:

That's a cool experience I go. Yeah, I love to like when people, when they have something that they're passionate about and then they turn around and like, want to share it, like that's something about I love about Atlanta, I would say, is artists really tend to have, for the most part, this attitude of wanting to turn around and help somebody up the ladder, so that's cool. I did not have any modeling groups Maybe I did at college, but they weren't looking for me.

Speaker 2:

They're lost.

Speaker 1:

Acting. You started getting commercial gigs. Which when did that happen? So you're 29 now. I'm trying to get your timeline together. So you're 29 now. And when did that like the modeling to trans, like transitioning into acting happen?

Speaker 2:

So that was when I got my first commercial gig.

Speaker 1:

Okay, what was that?

Speaker 2:

So it took me five years to graduate college.

Speaker 1:

Me too.

Speaker 2:

Because I my sophomore year I went hard in the paint and I lost my hope scholarship. So like I had to retake like a lot of the classes, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That did not happen to me. I was no judgments, no judgments. I changed my major like three times.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so yeah, it took me five years to graduate. I was about 22 23 when I first got like my first commercial gig.

Speaker 1:

What was it?

Speaker 2:

Rooms to go.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to go back and try and find your room to go. What were you doing? What was your commercial?

Speaker 2:

I was kind of telling people about I, was like in a house.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Like telling people to shop at Rooms2Go because Okay, I feel like that's most Rooms2Go commercials. Yeah, not just.

Speaker 1:

Rooms2Go like furniture commercials, like there's someone standing there and they're just like hey, hey, like buy this, buy that. That's really cool though. That's super exciting experience. I love that for you. What do you say right now? Because I know I feel like a lot of times artists are like actors are. They wear many hats, and I think that's just also part of acting. Like acting is you also have these other skills and then it also can help you with roles. So you know, you kind of have this background of music modeling and now you're also acting. Do you feel like you lean towards anything in particular?

Speaker 2:

In regards to like.

Speaker 1:

What you're putting your energy or your time into, or for me, I feel like there's different seasons with it, with each like music, and acting for me is kind of what I go back and forth between I it's a really good question, by the way, a really good question.

Speaker 1:

Well, we only have so much energy, you know and in time, within the day and when you're up and coming in this industry, you know you don't have a team of people doing all this stuff for you, like it's you. So I'm always curious, like kind of what other people's processes, cause I knew mine, you know.

Speaker 2:

So I would say I think, because acting is. I feel like there's a lot of gatekeepers in acting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

Speaker 2:

Which I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't really agree with. I don't like it because I've seen to where there's people that are way more talented and more qualified for a specific role and they don't get it because the gatekeeper doesn't like personally, like them as much, and I don't think that's fair. Life isn't fair. But, like, in regards to like I'm just looking at it from an artistic standpoint Like, if you want the best product just for art it's a gift to the world for everybody, a timeless piece you need to let all of like the human emotion out and do it just for the art.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And that's what I like. That's so that like leads me to think, or that leads me to propel, to want, like that's what has led for me to propel, to wanting to create my own shit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think too that's I agree with you and I think one of the hardest things like I've had to learn from an acting standpoint is that it's like a business and that part can be really frustrating because it isn't something that you can do on your own, like you have to have other people where his music isn't so much something that you can necessarily do completely on your own. I still feel like there's help, but like you can, to an extent, go and create your stuff on your own and get it out there, versus acting is very much dependent on other people saying yeah, your name, and also it doesn't depend on talent all the time. There are so many little things that can keep you from getting a role that it can be very frustrating and talent might get you in the door, but it doesn't always seal the deal.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, yeah, and I think well, that's why the strike that's going on right now. I'm all for it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because that shit needs to get resolved. Yeah, it needs to be fair, because how things are going right now like I don't see it as sustainable.

Speaker 1:

I don't either.

Speaker 2:

It's like monopoly, it's like, I'll say, an oligopoly. There's only like a few people at the top or companies at the top. I feel like when you distribute, you know the power of just like having four to like having like a bunch.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Definitely like kind of share the wealth and I think also I always like I have this mindset that there's enough room at the table, like some people have a very lack mindset and I have always like aired on the side of there's enough.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't say always, I would say at times like I went through my stuff with that but I definitely think like there is enough room at the table for people to show up and be performers and you know, I don't know, I and you don't have to be, you know, a-list actor to have success and enjoy this work. Okay, so I know I'm curious about this. I feel like mental help is a very like challenging thing, especially for artists. We use our art to at least I do, I'll speak for myself to help, like cope with a lot of things in life. But I also am curious about, for me, I found, when art started becoming something I was pursuing as a career, I had to be careful about how I use my art to help me cope with my mental health. Have you found, like that you're still able to use your art to help you cope with your mental health, or have you started trying to like find other avenues of dealing with that?

Speaker 2:

I would start with creating, so I used to, only so going to the music thing. Back to the music thing. When I created music, back then I would use it to vent, so like I would always have to be like in a negative space to write, and then, so like it really, when I started like digging deep into my psyche, I was like like dude, it's like a double-edged sword for me. Okay, my thoughts are going to be all over the fucking place.

Speaker 1:

No, you're fine, go for it. No, we're here to listen to you, so go for it.

Speaker 2:

So like I use it as therapy because I was going through. When I write I feel just a heavy emotion of just negativity, but I need to just like purge but like in doing so sometimes I feel like you can just live in that Close to just like vomiting it and cleaning it up. You're like sleeping on your vomit. So then that's like where to me like being like in a mental state where it's not like a low vibration and it's like easy for me to stay in there. Sometimes in my psyche I'm like damn, like I can only make good shit when I'm like in a low vibration. So now I'm like sacrificing, like being in a low vibration to make good art, but then I like start walking around with a cloud over me internally. Obviously no one knows Like I'm, like I'm good at hiding shit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, apparent confidence, we look like we're good. But and I think a lot of artists struggle with that because I mean, if you really think about music or even acting, even like comedy, a lot of comedy is around jokes at somebody else's expense or at your own expense, at your own self deprecation.

Speaker 1:

So, and music I mean most music is like I'm going through a breakup and dealing with that and I haven't been listening to music because I'm like every song is about like love or heartbreak, or I'm like just listening to like instrumentals and jazz. I'm like, you know, like is there anything that doesn't talk about love, which that's not like that's important? But I think a lot of music comes from a place of pain and also trying to deal with the pain that comes along with the human experience. I think all art is that. To an extent, it's an outlet when you start kind of like figuring out that shift of how do I make good art but still keep myself in a healthy place mentally, because and I'm not saying I have that question solved, but, like you know, that is ultimately the goal, because there's so much joy in creating the art that you create.

Speaker 2:

That's true, and it's also found on it. It's like that's a good way, that that's a great way to look at it, because it a lot like I. Looking at it that way, I think, makes it sustainable. Because if you're only able to create art when you, when you feel a certain type of way, what about when that feeling goes away? Like, how are you going to continue making art?

Speaker 2:

Do you know what I'm saying. And then that's like going back to the human experience. Now you're, you're, you're not tapping into all of who you are. It's only this side of who you are. It's opposed to, like here here right here.

Speaker 1:

I also feel like I've started seeing, like, along that line, artists start making music around like positive experiences more, like I feel like I'm seeing that more, which I like, because it's like OK, I don't always have to talk about like how much I'm struggling. And also it's like OK, can I sit down and write about music when, when things are good, when I'm having positive life experiences you know, because it's not always rainy and I definitely agree with you that that mindset is such a trap and I definitely fall into it of I need to step into this negative space to make good art.

Speaker 2:

Like, as far as like my acting, I feel like I am. I enjoy, for some weird reason, roles because I just started getting into like film and theatrical acting commercials right, I don't know if I mentioned that to you, but like starting commercials and now I'm like starting starting to get into film and theatrical. The roles that I really enjoy are the villain roles.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2:

I love it, yeah, and I feel like it's like therapy, because I'm walking around like I'm all like, like I'm like happy, so then, like when I have an opportunity to just like act in as a villain, it just feels therapeutic. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I agree with you. I like doing stuff too, like that I love playing stuff very opposite of me. And I think it's because you get to play your shadow self, like you get the things that you walk around in society and you're like I'm a nice person, like I'm not going to do that, I'm going to be respectful to people. You get to completely let go and do all those things Right and you're like I get to not care and be an asshole. And you know it doesn't even have to be an extreme villain, it can just be someone that gets to be a bitch Like I'm, like I get to be a bitch. I'm never gonna be a bitch. So I think I absolutely agree. It's so fun and I had an acting teacher one time that was like you know, a healthy person doesn't want to be a murderer, but it sure as shit is fun to play somebody that's a murderer.

Speaker 2:

It's true.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It doesn't make us crazy. It's just like you like that's the fun part of acting Like you get to like give into all the things that are like I can't do this.

Speaker 1:

It's a little crazy, just a little crazy A little bit and I think all like actors, artists, any performing artists, I'm like there's a little bit of you know, insanity to want to get up in front of people and just be like oh, I think Violet Davis said just like, unzip your skin and like, show your. You know the vulnerability of you to the world. What are you brought up low vibes, but I'm curious, like what are some things you do to get yourself back to that high vibrational energy?

Speaker 2:

Um, first things first. I like working out. I like going to the gym or moving. It doesn't have to be at the gym, moving outside and getting my blood flow, getting oxygen to my brain. There's more oxygen anywhere in your body. You heal.

Speaker 1:

Mm, hmm.

Speaker 2:

So, uh, I would say Going to the gym, eating healthy and drinking water, that is like so underrated.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know that those are like such basic things, but like no, I'm not. I completely agree with you, not judging at all, I'm like they are. So look at you, he's getting his water right now.

Speaker 2:

I like to show that it's water, but in here it's like a special.

Speaker 1:

It's actually vodka.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to drink my water too.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to drink my water too. Everybody's drinking water. Drink your water, everybody. Take a water break.

Speaker 1:

No, I agree, like, so I think I've always been like with movement, just like I have to do, like the most extreme thing, and maybe it's me maturing in my late twenties, I don't know. But now I'm like just walking, I love weight training, I like doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu and stuff like that, but I'm like, dude, just go another good walk. Like the way that changes me mentally is just mind blowing. And then there's so many studies, I feel like you know, with diet, culture and stuff. This is so off topic but I'm enjoying talking to you so I'm going for it.

Speaker 1:

But I feel like with diet, culture and stuff, we have been fed this thing of exercise and food for losing weight or looking a certain way, which is fine, but that's not the main point of it. That's like the secondary, that's like the after effect, Like you know what, that's like the secondary thing from it, Like at the root of it. They've talked about so much how food is just connected to mental health. Now there's so many studies around food and what we're eating and mental health, and then movement, like we are a society, I mean even a lot of parts of the world like there's just not enough movement anymore. So I love it. I love that it was basic, because there are three things that are just so simple but make really big differences.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yes. And I would say another thing which I'm like I don't do, but I, but when I, when I have consistently done it, meditating dude, even bro, even if it's just two to five minutes, the thing that those two to five minutes does for the rest of your 23 hours and 55 minutes of your day is incredible and it's very. I mean, if you like, say it out loud meditate for two to five minutes, 23 hours of your day is going to be different, on a better, on a positive note.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's so easy that people don't do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, the other thing is, I think we what I talked to you earlier about we very much live in this like idea that we have to do so much, but consistency and little bits of consistency. They had to just have such lasting impacts. And I am just now starting to like piece that together for myself, because I've always been the person it's like I need to do so much, or I'll do four hours on Sunday and when you like think about it, it's like I'm not going to sit down and meditate for four hours. Do you know what type of meditation do you like? Guided mantra, breathwork, meditation like what's your?

Speaker 2:

breathwork.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

For sure.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

So I started off with guided, but I but one of my friends kind of introduced breathwork to me and I mean it's it's to each their own, to each their own, but the breathwork for me, it opens chakras and flow like in spaces where energy is kept.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I. So I recently started segue from guided to breathwork, doing more breathwork and doing more like meditating on my own, like not even putting music on. I've been doing a lot of meditating like just in nature and using like kind of nature as my guide. But that's funny. You mentioned chakras because I just started doing I've been doing like some guided meditation to like kind of open chakras and stuff like that. I've been like getting into that. I know some people be thinking that we're hippies but I got you.

Speaker 2:

Let me ask you a question what got you, what, what? What kind of propelled you to explore that?

Speaker 1:

Um, so it's things that I've been curious about, for sure. And then my ex she is very much involved in spirituality and stuff and um, it just kind of there were things I got curious about and I think a lot for me. I was trying to wow, you flipped the interview. I just realized that, um, I, I, for me, was like trying to put on how spirituality worked for her and I realized, okay, I need to figure this out for myself. Like I have to figure out how this looks for me and then my faith in God is really important to me, so kind of figuring out how my faith and my spirituality and all that kind of ties together. And I do believe in energies and high vibrations and low vibrations and very much new to it, like all of that. Um, I've been meditating off and on, like doing guided meditations for a few years now but, I think it's not like.

Speaker 1:

I want to know more and I want to know genuinely how to feel secure and rooted in myself. So let's flip it back to you, spotlight.

Speaker 1:

Um what about you? Like how is I love this, I love that I was completely said way to way, or like I don't even know if segway is the right way, but like, not even like artist conversation, but that's great, because that's the point of this. I just want to open up for you. Um, what about you? How did like kind of spirituality and you know getting into chakras and meditation, like how did that start coming up Going?

Speaker 2:

about for you. So I was just always, I'm always devil's advocate in every conversation. I feel like, just because I like, I like listening to different perspectives and like throwing different perspectives out there, just to like, kind of, you know, put, add some different color to the water.

Speaker 1:

I feel like you just drop a bomb and you're like I actually hate chakra, like cool.

Speaker 2:

I'm just like I've always. Okay, I'll answer your question. I've always been curious. I'm just like curious human being.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm so and I know from like when I was younger. Like I've always just been gifted with intuition and and and, just and just frequencies. I don't, I don't know. I grew up Catholic.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I absolutely think that there are people who tune into that more um than other people, and I think people can learn to tune into that. I don't think it's, but I definitely think I think people have natural gifts and I think that's definitely a gift that some people have, that they just pick up on that stuff easier. And I also think like different, like childhood experiences and stuff like that can make you more aware of reading people and being very intuitive about people, and then that starts transitioning into like energies and stuff like that. So that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

No, it definitely does. It definitely makes sense because I know um. I think between seven or eight years old, your third eye starts closing. That's like an order. That's because, so when you're younger, like a lot of other dimensions, talk like you're very sensitive and susceptible to other dimensions of the world. So that's where you see like kids talking to like ghosts. Let me just give you an example right, yeah. Or, like they, like, they like, start talking about things that, like they, they're too young to even know about. Like that, this happened.

Speaker 1:

Right Like what are you talking about?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they just know. So when you start getting older, that third eye closes, because in that realm there's a lot of good and bad energies that third eye closes in order to protect the individual.

Speaker 1:

For sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you saying how you know your individuals experiences shape. I guess the gift or depending on what, they live through. Yeah, definitely believe them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for sure, I think too like kids, like from like nannying and stuff. I'm just like people. We so adults, so underestimate children. I like kids are just their little sponges, but they're also little teachers. Okay, bringing it back to like acting, performing or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I know we went all around the bush, but I still loved it. It was great.

Speaker 2:

You're fun to talk.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate it back at you. Um, how do you feel like you stand out in the industry? Do you feel like you stand out, you feel like you blend in?

Speaker 2:

In regards to my talent or regards to who I are. Regards to me.

Speaker 1:

Both.

Speaker 2:

I think I stand out as myself more to be, honest with you. I don't think people are like me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, nobody is. Nobody will do anything the way that you do it. So, whether that's acting, whether it's the same role and they have three people that look the same, nobody's gonna perform it. If they're doing it genuinely, through their lens, their perspective, their prep work, if you're trying to do that thing where you're like I'm trying to get the casting director or the director what I think they want, then yeah, y'all might have similar performances. But if you really show up and do it through your lens and through your experiences, nobody's gonna do it like you.

Speaker 2:

That's powerful.

Speaker 1:

I would say in the same thing with music. I think when you're trying to be somebody else, then yeah, you can be like okay, yeah, you know things come across similar, but when you're really using your voice, like Andres or Liz, everybody's got a story.

Speaker 2:

There's no comment system, just you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, go ahead. I didn't mean to cut you off, but I just love what you said.

Speaker 2:

You know, no for sure, I think in the entertainment industry, I think people are like not curious, Like what you're doing is not, like I don't think it's normal because I feel like you're coming from a genuine standpoint not to get like clout, Like you think you would do this, like how you're doing it right now, Like you don't, you do it because you enjoy it. You like talking to people, you enjoy getting different perspectives and listening to people and but curiously, genuinely listening to people, not just like saying, like asking questions and then just like yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, A lot of people in the entertainment industry. They're used to. They're not curious. I don't think they're. I think it's all me, me, me, as opposed to trying to connect with people at a deeper level, and I blame social media for that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, social media is definitely yeah, it's. I notice I'll take breaks from socials and I'll notice a dramatic increase in my mental health, I swear. But I will say I. It took me a while to get here and it's something that is genuinely happening recently. I would say for me, probably like the reason I didn't start this podcast sooner is because I had that approach that I was like okay, how can I grow it? I want people, like, of course I want people to listen to it. Of course I want.

Speaker 1:

But I really, as I've entered into like arts, podcasts, acting music, my mindset very much was about myself and people. One people don't care. People don't care who you are, you know. People don't care who I am, they don't care. They want to know how, like this will add value to their life. But when I've really started trying to shift my art to it's not about me and I have always said I want to help people and I'm like how can my art help people? And if it only reaches one person and it helps them, then it's worth it and genuinely getting that in my heart and soul. And that is something I'm still working on and I still have my ego where I'm like yeah, I hope this blows up. I hope that people be listening to this. I hope my podcast pays my bills you know, that's still there. But also having the gratitude and like I get to sit down and talk to you today and I genuinely want to sit down and talk to you today, you know.

Speaker 1:

I feel that yeah, I hope you do. I really hope everybody who sits down and talks to me feels like I'm not just like, okay, let's do this, like I'm, like I genuinely want to sit down and talk to these people and whoever I'm talking to.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, obviously like everything. It's like making money right, like you want to make money for your family. You want to make money to help other people. You want to make money to travel and have entertaining life. You know what I'm saying. Like there's, it's like working out, like you said. It's like there's like you look. The byproduct of eating right, having your mental is you look great. Also, like physically Right, where you're like that's not like at the forefront, even though it's still there, though it might be like priority.

Speaker 2:

Two or three, but it's not like one, but it's still a priority right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, we all got bills and I would like some financial freedom in my life. So I'm not going to say that I don't want to make some money.

Speaker 1:

You know, like I've always thought like money shows what is really at the root of you. So the more of it you have, whatever is at the root of you, like whoever you truly are, is going to come through. So if you're a very egotistical person who doesn't care about people, selfish, the more money you have, the more power you have, that's going to come through more. But you also see people with a lot of money who are very compassionate and very giving and very helpful and I think it's just it's going to take whatever is at the root of you and the more money you have, the more that magnifying glass is going to expand.

Speaker 2:

Honey, you know, unpopular opinion I think. I think majority of people that do have a lot of money are compassionate people. I think we get like in the media and like we look at someone that's like successful and we portray them to be the complete opposite of what the majority are.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, and we also see that on social media. It's really easy when, even if you don't comment or anything like that, it's that's like that envy, that ego, that jealousy. It's really easy to see somebody on social media who's doing well and your media thought in your head isn't hell yeah, like look good for them. It's like damn, I want, I want what they have. You know, or they're probably this or you know, you immediately have some type of negative thought About that. That's something else I've been trying to work on is like having like that Hell yeah, good for you, my turn's coming, you know mindset instead of that's not easy, but I would definitely agree with you that, like social media really, and Media alone, we I mean we love focusing on the negative. That's what media wants to focus on. There's just as many feel-good and positive stories out there as there are negative, but we only have to say negative. That would be okay. I'm curious.

Speaker 1:

I have two questions kind of closing, but I love this. I love we talked about, I love how like it went all over the place. It's so fun and I think there's so much useful stuff in here. But with acting and music, what with acting, what would be like your dream role. Like I know you said, the villain thing. Is that like right now, like be playing like a serial killer, that be like your thing, or is it something else?

Speaker 2:

I I would love, I would have you seen the movie taken.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I would love to be the villain and taken Like there's something about like the grunge and like the. It's like such a strong, like the content is so strong and and grunge and gritty and taboo Look at it if you really think about it. So being being the bad guy in there just seems Like a very Interesting role to take and it's attractive to me to be that role, you know what's no I.

Speaker 1:

So I honestly find what I've found because I've been acting for about Geez, I wanted to say five years, I think it's like six what I've found people who are like very genuine, very kind, very compassionate, like that's really who they are. I feel like they do the best at playing like these really grungy villain, just like heinous kind of characters. Yeah, I don't know entirely like what that is, but it's very bizarre. Like sometimes, like the nicest people I have met is like you call action. I mean even even you. You're like so sweet on set, we're vibing, and then all of a sudden they're like action.

Speaker 1:

You're like I mean, but I guess that's just being an actor too like I jumped into being a victim real quick, but you know, like you like wait for it, like which I love to the energy went straight into murdering me and Haley, like so you didn't, he didn't kill us, guys, don't worry, it was. It was a different character, we survived, but uh, no, that's so fun. I love that. I can see it too. What about music? Like kind of what are your goals? What's up coming with that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, dude, so with music um, I teamed up with One of my best friends that went to. He went to school. He went to college with me. So I went to Georgia State, I got my degree and then I went to SAE school for Audio engineering.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay cool, so a friend that I made at the university.

Speaker 2:

I teamed up with him and we've been working on music for the past two or three months fun and man, we just he's just been coming over and we've just been putting in work.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, he just came over. He's been coming over for the last two to three months. We've been like working on two projects very freaking excited about. It's a hint of like the Atlanta Trap that comes with Atlanta and then a mixture of like my sound, which is very I would like to say it's like Drake in Spanish. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, so that's super exciting.

Speaker 2:

So we have like the Atlanta like the Atlanta hip hop trap, and then we have the hispanic Me and we just kind of mesh our sounds together. So I don't think there's really anything like it out. That's super fun. So it's very fun and we mesh very well together. He's Shout out to K-Dub he's. He's really talented individual so I'm blessed that you know gotta put him in front of me. Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1:

I feel like um actors are At least getting to work on some other artistic pursuits right now, because I feel like I've talked to a few people who's like I'm doing this, I'm doing this, and they're really working on other avenues and areas right now, which is Hard because we also like acting and, like you know, we want to get back to that. But I also think it's an exciting, in a way, that we have these other things that we're getting to work on right and also, and also like, something that's like super cool about working with, with K-Dub is that it's a lot of work, it's a.

Speaker 2:

It's a Avagant American dude and I'm a Hispanic dude, so like kind of merging the two cultures together, there's so much there's like so much division in the world and, yeah, I love I, I see it as an opportunity to bring multiple cultures together and, and you know, yeah start the, the transition on being Together again, the together. So it's like something I am really striving to Get done together, different cultures.

Speaker 1:

I Definitely think that's a great goal because I think people think there's there is division in the world, but I think we are. We see a lot more of that versus people who are trying to close that division, like you and K-Dub.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Um, are y'all playing out at all, or do you have a date like when this will be coming out, like where people can see it at? I can link it maybe.

Speaker 2:

I haven't set the date. It's gonna be before before 2023 ends. There's gonna be, there's gonna be, a lot of content. We have a shit dude, we have a shit ton of content. But I, I'm the type of person that I want, I want, I want to do it right. So, like, yeah, fucking long ass catalog. So I'm not working behind, so I. So it's like we're to the point where 2024 is already finished. I got so much Song song. We've already like done. We're like we're like working. We're like on the dl, like we're working, like in silent, okay, you like working, like well.

Speaker 1:

Frank Ocean. Do you listen to him?

Speaker 2:

I love Frank Ocean.

Speaker 1:

Okay, he's got a quote. So I actually have it like on my vision board and it's like work hard in silence. Let success be your noise. Hmm. So I love, like what you said, that y'all are like working, working, working on the dl.

Speaker 2:

That's cool. That's really my. Get that quote tatted on me, man.

Speaker 1:

Next time I see you. Just no, that's super exciting. I'm really happy where I will tag all of Andres's stuff on my instagram. I'm me pod 21 when I post this on insult. So if y'all are interested in this music or anything like that or we can't really promote upcoming film projects right now Because of the strike, but if you want to follow this guy, see what he's up to, then I will absolutely post that. Thank you, andres, so much. Today I had like such a fun time talking to you.

Speaker 2:

Likewise, liz. Thank you for having me. You, I always cut you off. No, it's good, it's good. I'm just saying you're amazing, appreciate it.

Speaker 1:

Thank you. Is there anything you want to share in closing?

Speaker 2:

um, yeah, just be yourself, stress yourself, um Be close to god and Keep moving, because god he can't. He can't Drive a car in park, but he can help steer it and drive.

Speaker 1:

Oh, dang, okay, that's a quote. Somebody's gonna get that tatted on them, all right. Thank you everybody for listening. I hope people got something out of this. If you could rate and review the podcast with all the instagram, it just helps me do what I'm doing, and thank you so much, andres. I had a great time talking to you, thank you.